1. Report of Open NIR Meeting at 12 th APNIC Open Policy Meeting in Taipei MAEMURA Akinori, Chair JPNIC IPwg Equant Japan

2. Outline and Situation Held on Thursday 30 th, 16:00—19:30 Chair has just changed from Lee SeungMin to MAEMURA Akinori The forth NIR meeting The first OPEN NIR meeting Previous three are closed within NIR people 4 non-NIR people out of 36 participants Facing the turning point of NIR structure

3. Agenda - Reports Experience of working with APNIC Chia-Nan Hsieh, TWNIC the procedure dealing with IP reqeust from KRNIC ISPs Moo-Ho Cheon, KRNIC Organizational Change in JPNIC Izumi Okutani, JPNIC

4. Agenda – Reports(cont’d) NIR status Report Son Tran, APNIC Introduction of TWNIC Web-based IP address management system Tracy Tsai, TWNIC Status of ISOC-ID Marcelus Ardiwinata, ISOC-ID

5. Agenda -discussion new NIR structure (for discussion) Paul Wilson, APNIC

6. Discussions in the meeting New NIR Structure Database and registry system

7. New NIR Structure

8. NIR is National Internet Registry Had formed as “Country NIC” before APNIC launched Had redefined its function to cover cultural and linguistic gap between APNIC and LIRs

9. Issues Having allocation and allocating to LIR recursively causes fragmentation of IP address Membership has no sufficient difference from ordinary LIR members Fee structure, vote count,,, Proposed in the previous meeting in KL that we should discuss from “what is an NIR” But little discussion has made till now

10. Discussion and Conclusion Paul Wilson presented a discussion stuff (not a proposal) that identified the issues around NIRs and example of possible solutions Activate the discussion on this issue on nir- discuss mailing list based on this stuff from now Discuss and develop some other proposal back in each NIR Establish a working group if needed after discussion on the list

11. Database and registry system

12. Discussion TWNIC presented its recently developed web- based IP address management- application system KRNIC has had like this for some years JPNIC is under planning the development of whole registry system APNIC has its system Isn’t it redundant and wasteful to develop each own different systems?

13. Conclusion Start the discussion on the nir-discuss mailing list for collaboration of the development of registry system Efficiency by synergy for each party Smooth coordination for DB synchronization Discussion may kick off a Task Force for this project Possible Collaboration with IRR activities

14. Wrapping up… Very active and constructive discussion and contribution 3.5 hour continuous meeting is longer than IPv6 session that was so hot Nir-discuss mailing list is also open to everyone now! Consult mailing-list web page for subscription

15. Thank you!! Report of Open NIR Meeting at 12 th APNIC Open Policy Meeting in Taipei Questions?